What bike facilities do you support for Eastern Parkway, the corridor connecting the Highlands to University of Louisville?

4 vehicular lanes; lets keep the status very, very quo
3% (2 votes)
As above, but with sharrows and "Share the Road" style signs
42% (29 votes)
3 vehicular lanes, plus two bike lanes
55% (38 votes)
Total votes: 69

Comments

Question "Sharrows" effect...

I tend to question the traffic calming/bicycle awareness effect sharrows would have on Eastern Parkway.  With the speed and aggression I am accustomed to on that road (both as motorist and, rarely on that stretch!, cyclist), I really think that anything short of an engineered solution will substantively help.  Some might view that as heavy-handed (and it is), but people seem to have a deep-seated mindset concerning these well-traveled, convenient 4-lane connector roads.  And that mindset is "drive fast and bat-shit crazy".

I would welcome sharrows, but they really fall short of what is needed.  I certainly understand residents' concerns, but firmly disagree with anyone complaining about "decreased capacity".  One would think that residents along Eastern Parkway would welcome traffic calming measures with no appreciable decrease in capacity...? 

please, please, please... sharrows!

i completely understand the idea that sharrows really aren't going to accomplish much... at first. you're still dealing with the same auto capacity and trying to increase bicycle traffic at the same time, sort of a mess. however, segregated bike lanes perpetrate the idea that bikes are NOT part of traffic. additionally, this allows the state and drivers to have their cake and eat it too. as bicyclists, we are expected to follow the "rules of the road" as any other vehicle is expected to do. but, i am being told i am NOT as any other vehicle for i am provided a segregated lane to travel in. with sharrows the message is being displayed loud and clear, there WILL be bicycles in this lane. PAY ATTENTION!

Agree to disagree....

Good points, but I think we have some fundamental differences in how to approach the safe construction (and awareness) of infrastructure for motorists and cyclists.

I am very much aware of the division of the cycling camp into those that support stand alone/dedicated/purpose built bike paths and those that believe bikes belong alongside cars on the roadway and segregation only exacerbates the problem of sharing the road.  Count me firmly in the latter set - I am not for "bike paths" and such, the majority of which are recreation-driven.

I disagree that bike lanes at grade level, demarcated only by a thin, painted stripe wall cyclists off from traffic.  It's on the same roadway.  Interactions are as intimate as with sharrows or nothing at all.

From the standpoint of beginner and amateur bicyclists, I would think bike lanes might seem less daunting.  And that's really what and who I think about when approaching bike infrastructure - it should be about getting more people, more quickly out of their cars and on to bikes.  Make it as easy as possible (not with "paths" and such that really go nowhere and further the notion of bike as toy), but with easy, cheap, utilitarian measures such as lanes on well-travelled roads.  I must always remember that few 'new' cyclists have the nerve that I do.

Also, I tend to dispute the volume and clarity of the message sharrows send.  For many of the motorists I've talked with, it falls short of loud and clear.  Bike lanes, on the other hand, say "Hey, cycling for transporation is a policy priority and, to show we're serious, we're removing a lane of automobile traffic."  Now THAT'S a message.

But I do appreciate your points...and I would be very much thankful for sharrows, if that is eventually decided upon.

Background

As background, a "Sharrow" is painted onto the roadway like so:

Sharrows don't actually create a seperated zone for cycling, instead the idea is that all vehicles share the lane, but the arrow in the middle of the lane persuades the cyclists to take the safer, more visible position with the better vantage point. There are two applications that I know of in Louisville, most prominently the 2nd Street Bridge.

The "Three vehicular lanes plus two bike lanes" configuration is known as a "road diet". It turns what we have now (above) into this (below).

 

yes, bike lanes

We talked about this today at the Louisville loop input session, and apparently a lot of folks who live on Eastern Parkway were NOT pleased with the idea of a bike lane on the street in front of their house. With that being said, U of L is going to complete their reconstruction of Eastern Parkway with a bike lane going in both directions, which is a good start, but it's not a very long stretch of pavement. If we really want people riding bikes to U of L and other destinations in both directions, there needs to be bike lanes on Eastern Parkway. Thanks for posting this Dave. People need to start talking about where they want more infrastructure if we really want to increase bicycle numbers in Louisville.

Someone asked me to post this comment for them:

Although I'm a firm believer in shared use, ie, every lane is a bike lane, I'm torn between Sharrows and bike lanes. Having ridden Eastern Parkway often in daylight as well as after dark,  I do feel like bike lanes would be "safer" for the cyclist which would do more to encourage people to ride this corridor. The problem I feel with all bike lanes though is it perpetuates the idea in drivers minds that bicycles don't belong in the lane with "regular" traffic. "Get in the bike lane where you belong" is an often heard comment from passing motorists. Having said this, I feel it's my duty to vote for Sharrows.

I am impress people actually

I am impress people actually say "Get in the bike lane where you belong" I usually hear "Get on the sidewalk where you belong". Louisville isn't at the point that every road is a bike lane yet, but we might be moving in the right direction.